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house. the main attraction, our old friend the debt ceiling. they could default on the debt, unless the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires discipline, responsibility and compromise. >> dana: yet, he showed little willingness to do so. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to wor

tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism, and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. zzzquil™ sleep-aid. it's not for colds. it's not for pain. it's just for sleep. because sleep is a beautiful thing™. ♪ zzzquil™. the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil®. nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great id

to be a little breezy as well. meanwhile the problem break through on the debt ceiling. the house gop said they are considering raising the debt limit for three months, a vote is scheduled next week, more details on that in a bit. >>> today, of course is the last full day of president obama's first term and it's the national day of service. day for giving back. earlier today the president and first lady volunteered at a school in the washington, d.c. area, nbc's ron is standing by the national day of service day tent at the mall and you have a special guest there with you as well, good day to you, sir? >> reporter: hey there, craig. my special guest is being mobbed by the crowd behind me. it's the senior adviser to president obama. she will make her way here in a second. as she comes up, we will give her a big welcome. welcome, valerie. pleasure to see you. >> pleasure to be here. can you believe the crowd? it's amazing. >> reporter: the president and first lady created this to really hopefully make it a standing tradition for inaugurations going forward. >> not just inaugurations, my mess

right this guy -- maybe this time he means that he is not going to negotiate on this debt ceiling. do you sense that's what is coming out of this? or is there a darker path that they are trying to follow? >> well, what has me so intrigued are the at attentions between the house republicans and the republicans in the senate. if you look at the sequestration and automatic budget cuts, it looks like the house wants to try to blame the senate if things fall apart. so they can say now the burden is on the senate which they have to agree to an overall budget deal by april. and then they can say at that point we'll deal with the debt ceiling. so it was a way to put some pressure on mitch mcconnell. but mitch mcconnell seems to think that okay we'll pass a budget in the senate and then use that as possible leverage with the republicans in the house who might hold up the debt ceiling. >> michael: that makes perfect sense that that is what they are trying to do it is really just passing the buck. the white house held a firm line on saying we're not going to negotiate at a

votes do provide a template for how, by the way, the debt ceiling might ultimately get raised. on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to d

are not a deadbeat nation. we have to pay our bills. is he winning this debt ceiling battle? i know you have written about this on slate. >> i think he is winning intel correct annually and emotional and probably politically with the public but it remains to be seen what congress is going to do. we haven't seen a lot of engagement with congress yet. the debt ceiling somewhere between february 15th and the end of february, early march. we don't know quite exactly where it will be. we don't know whether john boehner and the republican house will look him in the eye and say we are not doing anything. it's a mystery right now. >> in fact, politico reported this week over housealf of house republicans say they are willing to shut the government down if they don't get the spending cuts that they are demanding as a price for raising the debt ceiling. >> that is what they are saying. it's still far enough out so that it could all be posturing. even if i accept it -- and i do -- that half of the house members actually believe that as we get closer, as the pressure builds, c

warnings about the u.s. credit rating and the debate over the debt ceiling. why some think this could mean new hope for a minting a trillion dollar coin we could use to pay our bills. we thought that was settled. maybe not. and this high school principal is in hot water after trying to connect with students with a video that he says was meant to be a parody. we'll push play and you decide. and a reporter yesterday challenged the president about whether he's doing enough to reach out to republicans and trying to negotiate the big deal he says he's looking for. we'll show you his response and look at what that could mean for the gun debate, the debt ceiling and the rest. >> most people who know me know i'm a pretty friendly guy. and i like a good party. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. turn your world upside down with gillet

in terms of what they can do, specifically on the debt ceiling, for example. we just heard the house republicans are going to try to negotiate a short-term debt ceiling deal so they can try to go for a grand bargain. second-term presidencies have just been spent and filled with misspent political capital that has just eoverreach in terms of presidents looking for a legacy and overspending their political capital. that's the risk president obama -- >> interesting in this cnn poll that just come out, how is president obama handling his job as president, approve 53%, disapprove 42%. but when they are asked how is the country headed, right direction 35%, wrong direction, 57%. they approve of the president but think he's going completely in the wrong direction. he's a lucky boy, many would argue, that he's gotten a second term, given the state of the economy, given the fact that most americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. he's been given that lucky second chance. and he campaigned well. you have to give him that. what are his challenges in the second term? >> the fir

conservatives for their debt ceiling hostage tactics. today it was the editors of the national review who said it was a bad idea. americans for prosperity, which is backed by, yes, the koch brothers, also said it was a bad idea. even newt gingrich, the rotund king of so many boad ideas, has said enough. >> in the end it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to defall. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. >> joining us now from washington is david corn, d.c. bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine and jared bernstein is a senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities. good afternoon to both of you. jared, if president obama were the one holding the debt ceiling hostage, right as the housing, auto, and retail sectors seem to be rebounding, wouldn't the house republicans be calling the president's tactics those of a socialist who wanted to bring down the american economy? >> i think they would, and i appreciate your bringing the economy into it. the president did that yesterday. the more we talk about the debt ceiling after obsessing over the fi

the debt ceiling in a timely manner and providing more clarity on policies could actually generate a boost in confidence and open the door for faster growth in the second half of 2013. looking at the labor market, we see lackluster growth in 2013 wing on job creation. we actually see gains of slowing in the first half of 2013 before picking up. it is a little bit slower than in the 4 1/4 with the doctrines of around 50,000 per month. slower gdp growth is going to be driven, we think, by a consumer that is going to be hobbled by tax increases. we will remain positive in 2013 combined -- in 2013, but not appositive in consumer spending over the fourth quarter the second half will be particularly weighed down by less money in their paychecks. and we think as the year progresses, the strength of the housing market, the while the effects of the home price gains and perhaps to improvement in housing could lead to somewhat stronger consumer spending. we did see a 12% gain in housing starts this morning month over month. 37% year over year. these are strong numbers. we did see improvement in home

illustrate why we are going to have the big fights over the next couple of months to raise the debt ceiling and two-thirds of the republican caucuses voted for this. they want to send a message that they really, really needed it, that they want to cut spending for every doll they put out there, even on disaster relief, which historically has not been required to have an offset. >> and definitely has ruffled feathers in the last congress. all of our viewers i'm sure will rememb how new jersey governor chris christie didn't hold back in showing how angry he was at congress, the house, and specifically speaker boehner when the vote was delayed last time. listen to him. this is on january 2nd. >> new jersey deserves better than the due police tea we saw displayed last night. america deserves better than just another example of a government that has forgotten who is the to serve and why. 66 days and counting. shame on you. shame on congress. >> when you listen to that and when you listen to the house floor and sound bites before , s what you're saying why speaker boehner did what he did in the v

the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you cannot shoot. as a very practical matter, if we go over the debt ceiling, we do not increase the debt ceiling, republicans will not win the debate. they will argue they are not increasing it because they do not want to control spending but they will not win the debate. what will happen is the white house will pay with cash flow of the interest on the debt. the debt will not be called. what they might not pay our social security checks. the moment the american citizen figures out they may not go out, the game is over. tenfold. because believe me, though congress can stand up to the senior lobby. so that is not a legiti

up and the debt ceiling talks of 2011 led to a budget standoff between democrats and republicans who had taken back control of the house in the mid-terms. >> is there a risk that the united states could lose its triple-a credit rating, yes or no? >> no risk of that. >> no risk. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august, the political fight and the spotlight on the count row's deficit and debt problems led s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term, now he's stepping down at treasury. the pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. he is know chummy with the republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation. for that reason and other, his looming confirmation hearing could be bumpy. but if confirmed, lew will likely be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the count re's long-term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple to the tenor of our times with the budg

's an upcoming one with the debt ceiling. ep has to acknowledge this not so pretty reality in the washington as he gives a speech that's supposed to be inspirational. >> the reality is the same congress he was working with on friday will be the same congress he's working with come tuesday despite the speech. we'll watch closely to see more details coming up. thank you so much. we'll watch more of this ahead. >> we always know security is tight in washington, but for the inauguration, it is as tight as it can possibly get, like the motherload of security here. joe johns is here with us to talk about the whole situation. what are we seeing? >> well, john, first of all, there are probably going to be something like 12,000 security people that we know of in and around the national mall for all of the events. so let's break that down a little bit. there are about 4,000 d.c. police officers all of whom will be available for security, different shifts probably working between 12 and 1 hours on sunday and on monday. we have something like 6,000 national guard people, men and women, who are brought h

hit on them there, gun, immigration, among the biggest, the debt ceiling and president obama has a lot offy second-term agenda, but many seem skeptical and in our latest wall street journal poll asked where america is headed, nearly 60% of the people polled used negative words like wrong track, downhill. joining me now to talk about all of this, christina antonio, political reporter, and ed o'keefe for "the washington post". good to have you guys in the flesh. usually it's in double boxes and this is a nice treat. >> let's throw another number on the screen, christina. this is the president's approval rating as he goes into his second term. right now, 52%, according to the poll, say they approve of the job that president obama is doing so far. how does that compare to other two-term presidents? >> he is not quite as popular as many other presidents and he's a little bit higher than george w. bush was going into his second term, but it really reflects that and when you look at the breakdown of the job approval rating and what people like, he's okay, just over the 50% mark in those polls

forward on some key issues such as gun control, immigration reform, tries to deal with the debt ceiling. and finally, we're told that the president will push to get the public engaged, engaged in their community, engaged in the issues to put pressure on congress to move the president's initiatives forward, john. this is seen as sort of the stage one or the act one, part two will be the president's state of the union address where he'll add more details to his proposals. >> you split it into acts there, dan, appropriate because we saw the president today, the swearing-in ceremony, but because this is a sunday, we saw him only briefly in the blue room. how has he been spending the rest of the day, and what are his plans for this evening? >> reporter: this evening within this hour, the president will be heading to the building museum for a candlelight reception there. he will be making remarks, but much of the day, you know, was quite busy earlier in the day, then had some down time. the president's still working on his speech. we're told that he's in the final stages. he did a lot of it o

the congress you are going to see on debt ceiling. the republicans in the house are talking about a short-term view of that. it certainly would avoid disaster coming up for the end of march. you will still have the issue of raising it for the long term. on the republican side there is no real appetite to do that without the reforms. same for gun-control. a lot of the agenda items that the president announced last week, the 23 executive actions you will see taken piece by piece. the easiest one to accomplish will be those that come forward the fastest, and the same for immigration reform. there is a lot that could be done and a comprehensive approach, but i think you will see that come down to the very bare minimum that both sides are able to agree on. >> let me follow up with a vote that will happen on wednesday. that will give another three months and the extension of the debt limit. weird is that position? why delay that for three months? where does that put them in march and april? >> this is an acknowledgement that they have lost the debt ceiling essentially as a leveraged tool they h

are at an extreme disadvantage, for example, the debt ceiling, let's just use that as one example. republicans said we don't want to raise the debt ceiling. president obama said i'm not going to bargain with the debt ceiling and republicans in congress are going to vote to raise temporarily the debt ceiling on wednesday. it seems the president has the upper hand, and maybe that's why his speech was so darned tough. >> well, look, there's no doubt that being the president of the united states gives you the biggest bully pulpit there is in the nation, and i think he realized that and he is using it. part of that speech yesterday talked about taking it to the citizens and having the citizens continue being part of this process and pushing, but you know, with the debt ceiling, i think republicans were actually trying to extend an olive branch and found themselves rebuffed yesterday. if we had said pick the most controversial, divisive issues in the country right now, they are the issues that president obama chose to speak of yesterday. he's got a state of the union coming up in a couple of weeks. i wou

to the caucus, we can't win this fight publicly. let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said we don't have the votes. that's now, and that is before the president goes

on very soon to talk about the debt ceiling, and it's going to be -- we're going to see the exact same extremism there. we already know there's going to be a huge fight and it's going to be played to the end with the highest stakes. >> marco rubio's comment, you know, goes to karen's point. it shows what he cares about now is through the republican base in 2016. to rush out right away and say this is an abuse of power and, you know, two dais ago, whenever he gave his speech, yesterday, immigration proposals, which were almost exactly the same as barack obama's, what do you know? this is a guy who wants to have it both ways and keeping his eye on that base, as small as it is, people voting in the 2016 republican presidential primary. >> if it gets much smaller, they are not going to vote for him. >> mark levin yesterday on fox said i'm not into imperial politics and obama forgets there's a constitution. i just don't know that is a winning message. when you watch the president out there, who listen, hey, clearly is reading the same memo frank luntz is writing, common sense, reasonablenes

back the debt ceiling for about three months, i believe. i was wondering if there was any chance for congress and the president to foster more bipartisanship during the second term? >> i think that will be a major theme of his speech tomorrow. i think he will be speaking out, once again, across the aisle to call for the reaching of common ground on these major issues, like the debt ceiling, the budget, gun-control, immigration, tax reform, those kinds of things. i think it is true that we have a divided government now. it has been a difficult four years, but president obama is a natural conciliate her -- conciliation person, and he will make that a big theme of his second term. i think you will hear some of that tomorrow. >> this is from this morning's "washington post." you can draw an analogy to two former president, franklin roosevelt and dwight eisenhower, finding parallels to what fdr delivered in his second address in 1937, and what eisenhower faced in 1957. >> the roosevelt second inaugural address is interesting to read because it really is of a peace with first inaugural

trying to figure out how to deal with the debt ceiling. congressional republicans that is. and here in washington everybody gearing up for the big inauguration. meanwhile, very striking cbs/"new york times" poll out this morning revealing that the american people are overwhelmingly behind the common sense new measures to reduce gun violence unveiled this week by president obama and vice president biden, 92% of americans saying they support a universal background check. 63% support a ban on high-capacity magazines. 53% supporting a ban renewing of the ban on assault weapons. the american people are ready for action. on another front, two high-profile celebrities proving that they are nothing but big, fat liars today. lance armstrong lying about the tour de france and manti te'o lying about his girlfriend. all of that coming up right here on current tv. right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your health

to call for the reaching of common ground on some of these major issues like the debt ceiling, the budget, gun control, immigration, tax reform, those kinds of things. so i think that it is true that we are -- we have a divided government now. it has been a difficult four years but i think president obama is a natural. i think he will make that a big theme of his second term. i think you will hear some of that tomorrow. host: this is from this morning's "the washington post" who writes a new term, a new obama. he points out and draws an aanalogy to f.d.r. and eisenhower. guest: the roosevelt second inaugural address is interesting to read. it really is at peace with the first inaugural address. this is a president saying i came in with a huge crisis, we're on the right path, we're going to keep going. he has a phrase in there, have we found our happy val valley? i -- valley. i don't read it as being an aggressive speech. he was speaking to the whole country but he wasn't in campaign mode. roosevelt was very good in that way and eisenhower never sounded like he was in campaign mode. guest:

, martha, where they're cot delling together what could be a three-month extension of the debt ceiling to try to hammer out more spending cuts and coupled with chuck schumer, the man in charge of today's big inaugural event, more tax hikes. a lot of bruising to come as far as they settle this but they are a long way from settling it. martha: neil, that raises a bigger question. you look at the second term of fdr who dealt with obviously severe economic distress in this country. what happened was they relapsed. there is lot of concern if we do continue to raise taxes and small business owners who the president said are one of his priorities in the second term, but if their sense is their taxes are going higher, they will continue to pull in and get smaller and leaner and not hire i would imagine. so the big question is, where is the whole economy going to head if taxes are increased in other ways in this country? >> well you know the president spoke to quickly come back at the notion, if wall street is worried about this and companies are worried about this, investors are worried about

obama also has big battles looming over the debt ceiling, budget, immigration. he's already taking heat over the makeup of his cabinet. not enough women. let's talk about that later in the show. >>> and none of the president's second term agenda will be easy with the republicans in congress. take texas congressman steve stockman. he replaced ron paul and is making noise about impeaching the president. it's his second go around in congress. in '94 he was considered far to the right. now he fits in with some of these people. it says a lot how far they have come. >>> finally let me finish with a need for republicans again to choose sides. the wild bunch or the posse? this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> coming up monday, president obama wi

likely i'm going to have some republicans come with me. he was tough on the debt ceiling. he was tough on the fiscal showdown. when he got tough, boehner had to let some republicans go his way. i think he want unity. the path is being tough and being clear about what he wants to get done bp. >> if you look at lift, second terms have not worked out how most presidents think they will work out. something happens. president bush, the financial crisis. president clinton, the impeachment. >> this guy is awesome. >> stuff happens. clean it up. it's family show. george w. bush never mentioned terrorism. that was the topic that dominated his term. i re-eisenhower's second inaugur inaugural. the most important thing was to send troops into little rock. i think most of these presidents have no idea what they're about to encounter. >> outside events end up shaping the legacy and how they respond. the president's maximum political power and validation is right now in this moment and in the next year. the question is does he strike while the iron is hot an does he take to the tendency which will be

of saying hey, we're not going to lift the debt ceiling, you say, yeah, we will for three months and then go ahead and pass a budget in that time period. is that possible? >> i sure hope so. obviously that's the goal. that's been my goal for the last 18 months since i've been in the senate. obviously to push the senate to do something. as you mentioned, we haven't had a budget for almost four years. washington, d.c i think we can agree on one thing, that the worst run institution in america right now is the united states congress. we need to do something different. >> brian: so to do that, you got to get to some control over your own colleagues and to do that, hold on to their paycheck. republicans like darrell issa say i think that's unconstitutional. >> there is a lot of people in washington, d.c. that obviously don't want to cut their pay. the purpose of that constitutional amendment was to make sure that members of congress didn't enrich themselves during the legislative session. i'll tell this to darrell issa and nails wants to make this argument. cut your pay and go back to your distri

's some type of deal on not slamming-- or raising the debt ceiling, just the tone, jay carney saying he's encouraged and the republicans trying to beat a deadline and things might be different. >> sure, i don't think anyone in this town is under any illusion, and magically the republicans and democrats are coming together and solve all of these big problems and singing kumbayah. but there are a host of things where they want to come together and find some common ground and the debt ceiling might be one of them, but the republicans have some caveats to that and want to make sure that the senate democrats pass a budget. something they haven't done in the last four years and put some heat on the democrats right there. even as both sides are talking about coming together on some of this, there's going to be an edge to it as well. let's not forget the president is still dealing with high unemployment. and wants to focus on gun control, immigration reform and get those done in the second term and still got things left over from the first term. stubbornly high unemployment said he's going to c

and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only

with me. he was tough on the debt ceiling, he was tough on the fiscal showdown. when he got tough, finally, bainer had to let republicans go his way. i think he wants unity, but the path to unity is not kumbaya, it's being tough and being clear about what he wants to get done for the country. >> second terms have not worked out how most presidents think they're going to work out. something happens, president bush the financial crisis, president clinton the impeachment. paul, another thing you said, the inaugural is another blueprint etched in sand? >> this guy's awesome. >> the great philosopher who first said, stuff happens. president bush, who ari served -- in his first inaugural never mentioned terrorism. that was the topic that dominated his term. i reread eisenhower's inaugural, he gave a stirring speech about the cold war and confronting communism. the most important thing he did in his second term was send troops into little rock. not into berlin, but little rock to enforce desegregation, he signed the first civil rights law since the civil war. he hardly spoke about that in the sec

than that. is it possible to get immigration, gun control, the debt ceiling, really think about how you curb spending, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, climate control, energy policy -- all done in that one to two-year window. >> i think that we will be able to do most, if not all of those things. and certainly attempt to do all of them. all of them are important issues. all of them are things the president cares deeply about that many members of congress care deeply about. but most importantly, they're things that the american people care about. with that momentum going forward, we'll try to tackle them. >> joaquin, nice to have you with us. we appreciate it. have a great afternoon and great day. let's bring in jeff toobin, who is right over here. i want to show people how close we are to the capitol. jeff, if you look up here, this is the perfect view to watch the president being sworn in. >> it really is great. one of the things you don't realize is how close they are together. it is a very ipt mat scene up there. the chief justice of the united states, as famous and powerful as he i

mean he was in command of that discussion. he didn't move, he made the country move toward him. debt ceiling, same way. now his appointments, same way. david gergen wrote a great piece on cnn.com about obama 2.0, tougher, stronger. and i think he's found his stride again. i think you're going to see it tomorrow on the podium. >> let's talk about the appointments right now, you brought that up. you were at the white house at the beginning of the first term. how does it differ from what we're likely to see in terms of the personnel at the beginning of the second term. >> when you first go in there's a complete turnover. all the civil servants are still there, but all the political appointments are brand new. you're trying to figure out where do you get the tape continues pennsylvaniaer, that's not going to be the next situation. you're going to have more continuity and i think that you're going to have you're going to have a besser sense of what the president is able to do with his hand. i think people are missing the big story here. it's not just the people who are going to be working

dive on policy, whether it be gun control, immigration reform, the debt ceiling debate. tomorrow's broad scene. his senior advisor will talk about bringing the country together. republicans are saying the early signals they've seen from the president at the start of the second term suggest pretty much more of the same. take a listen. >> he's going to talk about our political system doesn't require us to resolve all our disputes our political differences but it does require us to seek common ground. he will make that point very strongly, that people here in washington need to seek common ground. >> i was surprised this week to see him transition his campaign committee into an ongoing campaign style effort to have an impact on the washington debate because it doesn't seem to me that the lessons of the first term would be that that worked out very well. >> now, interesting. the vice-president, joe biden, was sworn in several hours before the president over at his official residence. we're told that's because he was sworn in by justice sonia sotomayor. she needed to get to a book sig

, they're going to introduce their bill, vote on their bill to extend the debt ceiling for three months, give themselves a little running room, but this is a president who is going to be aggressive about his agenda. he didn't just talk over republicans, he went right after them, talking about takers, s saying that's not what social security and medicare are, a jab not only at mitt romney but paul ryan, who he will be dealing with. >> when you have a guy who has bullied you in the schoolyard for four years and you finally fight the bully and you beat them like he just did in this election, you're not as afraid of the bully as you was or at least cautious. i think they bullied this president. he went to the mat and re-elected with a wider margin than george bush and saying the bullying is over. we're either going to fight or work together. >> the problem is both sides feel like they were bullied over the past four years and they've got to figure out how to work together over the next four years. i want to talk about yesterday with you quickly and open it up. it struck me as a son of the s

'll be successful avoiding a terrible bruising battle over the debt ceiling? >> i think the president will be successful. the president won, and he won big, and people must respect that. he has the know-how, the skill, the gut to lead. he must tell people when he speak tomorrow during his inaugural that we must come together and look out for the common good and work together and be prepared to compromise. >> but that art of compromise is something we have not seen much of lately in this nation's capital on capitol hill. without a re-election campaign looming ahead, do you think the parties will be able to better work together with this this president in his second term? >> i think we all must work together with this president, not just democrat, not just liberals, but republicans and conservatives. if people fail to come together and work together the republican party will be a party of the past. >> tomorrow is a big day, a great day. a man you called your brother would have been 84. what is his legacy today? how will you read that? >> well, it's a different day. it's not just dr. kin

, are you with us? caller tell why does it cost so much for an inauguration when the debt ceiling is so high? why not take those donations and put it towards the debt? guest: de $100 million or so that will be paid by the federal government, when you see the inauguration on television, you are not seeing a lot of that security. these professionals are prepared for all sorts of things to happen. metro in washington, d.c., will be running at rush-hour levels. all of this infrastructure needs to be constructed. host: a question about the money that people give, when you're asked how they could give money to organizing for action. will they be accepting donations? what will the money be used for? guest: they will take the donations and they said how it will be used to organize grass- roots democratic priorities. gun control is a great example. host: we will talk for a moment as the president's motorcade had for the national sert -- the national cemetery. the motorcade makes its way past the hour camera here. -- passed our camera here. >> you can leave your stuff right here. >> ok, do not worry.

battle over the debt ceiling. >> mary thompson, thank you. >>> one of television's favorite fathers has died. conrad bains played the father on "different strokes." a veteran stage actor, he rose to fame in middle age with the long-running family sitcom. he was 89 years old. a big hit here on nbc. 7:19 right now. back over to matt, savannah and al. >> must-see tv. >> exactly. >>> mr. roker is here. >> a big storm going on down south. live to pearl, mississippi. you can see the snow already on the ground and more on the way. as we take a look and show you what's happening. here is the latest. we have winter storm warnings. winter weather advisories, stretching all the way from jackson, mississippi, to southern new jersey. storm system a fast mover. and a ton of snow. and from the west to the east. it will dump a lot of rain. snowfall amounts, some areas picking up 6 to 12 inches of snow and rainfall to the south of it. anywhere from 3 to 5 inches of rain. that's your latest weather. we'll get your local forecast, right after this. t right after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ]

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